FelRh007Margaret.doc

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HYNAFIAD - FELENRHYD FAWR -ANCESTORS

 

Beth ydym yn wybod (ddim yn wybod) am Margaret ( nee(P)Richard(s)) Williams (1779  -  18??)

What we know ( and don’t know) about M(P)R

-          Mam Griffith Dafydd (1853) ‘s Mother -

                  (+) 90% certain;                 (*) 50% / 50%);                 (X) not certain at all / no information

 

1.      Bedyddiwyd ym Meddgelert  6.6.1779. Margaret Daughter of Richard Jones Ffridd and Maragret(sic) his wife ( not Catherine!)              ( +)

2.      Priodas ym Meddgelert David Wiliamso Llanddwywe (ger Dyffryn Ardudwy) â Margaret Richards    27.1.1809. She was 30 years old and he was 24   ( +)

3.      Bob Owen Croesor- Llyfr y Plwyf Beddgelert? Llanfrothen?  David Williams from Llanddwywe & Margaret dau. of Richard Jones Ffridd Beddgelert    (probably)

4.      Llyfr y Plwyf  - Birth of Griffith ? to David Williams & Margaret Richards   7.1.1816       (+)

5.      Hanes Methodistiad Tanygrisiau D.O. Hughes ( Written after 1909) Note regarding Temperance Movement” Margaret Prichard the mother of Mr Griffith Davies Cynfal and grandmother of Mr Griffith Davies Gelli Green    (+ )

6.      Her son Griffith Davies( aka Williams) married Sarah Jones B.Cyf. from Tanygrisiau, in 1841 ( + )

7.      Griffith Davies and Sarah were at Tanygrisiau in 1851   ( + )

8.      Death of Margaret (P)Richards 1837  to 1860 ????   (*)  Search St Catherine’s Indices/ Registerar Olwen Jones at Bl. Ff.

9.      Burial of M(P)Richards Williams a) Beddgelert; b) Llanfrothen c) Bl. Ffestiniog (2) d) Llan Ff.                                       ( X ) We would have expected M(P)R-W to be buried with her husband David Williams (1785- 30.3.1821) at Llanfrothen. (D 026) It is surprising that the sons & dau. did not record her  although four other persons were interred  in the same grave, the last , W.D, in 1893/5. It is unlikely that MPR-W  outlived them. Was there no space in the plot for her or did they not record her death. Another look at the church or cemetery records might reveal some anomaly. Incidentally, it appears that the M.I.dates and age (1895 & 89yrs) of W.D. is wrong here.

10.    Census

Margaret Prichard         Margaret Richard (s)    Margaret William (s)

 

1841        62 oed  (+/*)

Bedd G; Llan Froth. ; Bl.Ffest./TanG.

 Born Beddgelert

1851         72   (+/*)

 As above

                

1861         82   (+/*)

 Tanygrisiau

               

1871         92     (*)

 

              

1881         102   (X)

 

                 

1891               (X)

 

                

 

 

 

Llanfrothen - search for :-

 

a)    Margaret  Williams                                    Margaret Richard(s)                       Margaret Prichard(s)                                                                     

A008     MW dau.12.1.1737(82)                D015 7.6.1811 (42)                                         Nil

G042 Priod W.O.W.28.6.1887(34)

G044 15.4.1900(71)                                 NIL FOUND TO MATCH

                                                                 Ni edrychais am Margaret Davies

 

b)      David Williams

A038/39 DW. Garth llwynog 5.9.1900 (85) a Grace ei wraig Garth Llwynog:

B062 Ellen Williams merch DW a Ellen Williams 1853 (5)  -Dim cysylltiad?

 

 

D026        Bedd dwbwl â reiliau a cholofn ??

Er cof am

David Williams

Ty Newydd, Caeglas

Yr hwn a fu farw Mawrth 11 1822

Yn 36 mlwydd oed

Er cof am

 Jane merch W’m a Jane Davies Gelligoch Isaf

 Yr hon a fu farw Ebrill 11 1860 yn 19 mlwydd oed

 Hefyd  Margaret eu merch

 Yr hon a fu farw Mai 27 1869 21 oed

 Er serchog goffadwriaeth am

Jane Davies

Annwyl briod William Davies

Bryn Derwen Minffordd

 Yr hon a fu farwEbrill 7 1881

 Yn 73 oed

 Hefyd  William Davies

 Annwyl briod yr uchod

 Yr hwn a fu farw Mai 15 1895 yn 89 oed     ???

 

Yr Iôr, pan ddelo’r enyd-ar diwedd

O’r ddaer a’n cyfyd

Bydd dorau y byd

Ar un gair, yn agoryd

                                                                    R. ab Gwilym Ddu     

 Visit and Photo required.

 

G039 DW.       

  Rhyd 3.4.1887(70)

 

As well as Llanfrothen I have trawled Bethesda, & St David’s Bl Ffest also St Michael’s Llan Ffestiniog I looked at about 75 possible MW (P) Pr, but found no apparent matches

 

Beddgelert fiche

 A trawl revealed a  number of DW  and MW (P)r –W , non of which were of apparent significance.

 There were however a number of references to Ffridd, Ff. uchaf; Ff.bella as follows:-

A173    Richards Jones of Frith Oct 1781(59) also Catherine his wife 12.2.1794(66) also William Pritchard( late of Ffridd) son of R.J. 28.8.1816 (39). Also Martha wife of John Roberts of Bryn melyn 2.7.1841(29)

 

            A174     John Pritchard of Ffridd 20.2.1830 (67). Also his wife 21.2.1850 (aged 83)

            A277     Alice wife of Evan Owen Ffridd isaf 20.11.1856(55) ;Evan Owen 27.121866 (80)- any conection??

            B549     Wm Pierce Ffridd Rhydddu husband of Elizabeth Pierce 19.2.1908(?):Elizabeth Pierce 11.8.1928(68); Eu mab Pierce M.Pierce (priod Margaret Pierce) 26.1. 1927(36)

            B587     Jennie plentyn Wm a Jane Alice Roberts Ffridd isaf 29.1. 1905(5); Wm Roberts13.7.1952(81); J.A.Rbts 1955(76)

            A015/107 &110 Morgan Pierce Cadwalader mab Margert Jane Pierce Ffridd Uchaf Pierce ,mab 1877(22) Pierce mab Rice & Jane W. of Ffridd Ucha. Jane W. Ff.U.11.9.64 (9days)

Pierce Morgan Ff U.23.12.1864 (84) & Jane Owen ei wraig 25.4.1866 (81)

 

Need to tidy up and re-examine.

 

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