FelRh005ach.doc 1996
NOTE (the information contained here has been has now been re-examined and corrected - see FelRh005BrCyf notes. R. Price 20.02.2002)
There is some doubt in my mind whether Sarah Jones of Bryncyfergid married Griffith Davies of Cynfal Fawr / Felenrhyd or not. I have been unable to find a marriage certificate at Blaenau Registry office. The pre 1837 record of any such marriage is not shown either. The evidence is ambiguous and contrary. According to Robert Griffiths ( RG) work (Vol. 18) – completed about 1910/20 and which is with Gwen Northey Dolben at Wrexham- Sarah (senior)& Morris Jones of Bryncyfergid / Tyddyn Dewin had five children, viz, Ann, Gwen, Mary, Sarah and Arthur.
Burial records of G044 Maentwrog shows the following details for Bryncyfergid:- Arthur (1803-1814),Sarah (1815-1815) & Mary(1805- 1819). There were two called Sarah and two called Mary.
RG states that Ann, who married John Cadwalader, was a daughter of Bryncyfergid but this could not have been so.
Burial Records 301 at Llan Ffestiniog shows the following: - Ann Cadwalader (1789-1830 age 41) and John Cadwalader (1775-1838 aged 53). Burial Record G045, Maentwrog, shows Sarah Jones (senior, purportedly Anne’s mother) period as 1780-1828 aged 48. MOTHER BORN IN 1780 AND ANN THE DAUGHTER NINE YEARS LATTER in 1789 ! There could be some error in the recordings of course. Ann is more likely to be a sister (in law) rather than a daughter
Is well documented in the 1841/51& Burial 953; she married Pierce Edwards.
She married Robert Joseph (see marriage Cert.7.7.1840 Burial 610. Sarah Jones, her sister presumably, witnessed the marriage. Sarah (grand dau. -nee Joseph) was their only daughter This Sarah Joseph married Owen Williams of Manod and Tyddyn Gwyn Mawr. There were two sons Robert and William; they were bachelors and there was no issue. (*see below)
SARAH (junior- nee Jones)
According to RG she is recorded as Sarah Cynfal, having married Griffith Dafydd BUT
· There is a marriage record at St Michael / Registry Office, dated 18.9. 1841 of Sarah Jones -aged 19, daughter of Morris Jones, Bryncyfergid- marrying a Griffith Williams of Tanygrisiau ( his father was also called Griffith Williams) A copy of the marriage certificate is now available.
· I could not find a record of any other Sarah Jones marrying a Griffith Dafydd (Davies).
· There was a record of 1839 of a Griffith Davies ( father Evan Griffith) marrying a Sarah Owens of Highgate ( father was Owen Roberts).
· In D.O. Hughes’s book “History of Methodism at Tanygrisaiu”, pp47-55, there is a reference to a Margaret Pritchard, the mother of Griffith Dafydd Cynfal Fawr and the grand mother of Griffith Dafydd (junior) of Gelligrin, Maentwrog.
· Sarah (nee ?? ) Davies of Felen Rhyd died 1899 aged 77, born 1822 She was Elin Jones’s grandmother and my great grandmother.
· Sarah ( junior - nee Jones ) of Bryncyfergid her siblings were born between 1803 & 1819. According to her birth certificate she was 19 when she married in 1841 giving a birth year of 1822!!
· There are at least two possibilities :-
a) there were two Sarahs, both of the same year of birth, both married to a Griffith and RG got it wrong, some how !
b) Sarah Jones’s (junior) husband, Griffith Williams, died and that she remarried Griffith Davies
c) Some other explanation?
· I need to find the marriage records of a Sarah (nee ???) with a Griffith Davies/ Dafydd until I do, evidence of the marriage of Sarah (junior) with Griffith Davies is very doubtful.
· I also need to find the birth certificate of their son Griffith Dafydd( junior) who appears in the 1871 as a 17 year old born at Llanfrothen (born 1854) and living at Cynfal fawr with his parents Sarah an Griffith Davies. G.D. (junior) was aged 30 when he married 19.1.1883 (born 1853). The birth certificate of G.D. (junior) should give the maiden name of Sarah (nee- ???). Details requested from the R.O. 24.3.2000
* My mother, Ellen (nee Jones) Price used to call Sarah (nee Joseph) Williams Tyddyn Gwyn Mawr, Modryb (aunt). There were also some other indications of a connection e.g. Intestate and T.Y.G /Felin Rhyd- mountain ponies and Mam – she was at T.Y.G.M. as a maid, that incidentally, how she met my father, David Price of Brongoronwy ( between TYGM and Bryncyfergid ) .